Posted by
edav38 on Monday, September 25, 2006 8:28:57 PM
http://www.commondreams.org/news2006/0925-04.htmThis is a Link to an Article on a Quaker Website.
Below is a Letter I just sent to the Magazine Editors and to the Author of the article:
For ALL of you who THINK that you can Reason with these People, who think that ANY Dialogue you have with these People will EVER produce any results, I suggest you Look to the History of this Religion.
This religion is NOT Like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Zoroastrianism (for those of you who have not heard of this one, there are OVER 2 million followers of it in India, and it is a religion that is more than 3,000 years old), or Even B'ha'i. These Religions BELIEVE in Forgiveness, and in acceptance of those who do not believe as you do. Yet, Islam, BELIEVES that if you are not Muslim, youa re to convert or be put to death, and if you are Muslim, and Leave this "religion" then you must be put to death. (I KNOW I have Read the Koran 3 times, cover to cover)
TRUE, Not All Muslims are Terrorists,..... YET, so far, ALL of the Terrorists are Currently Muslims. Of the more than 100 conflagrations happening in the world today, MORE than 9/10 of them can be Directly tied to Muslims Extremists.
Am I opening myself up for retribution with my words, .....Probably.
Do I Care?,.................NO, Not on your or my life.
"First they came for the Gays, and I said nothing because I was not gay (actually I am gay, but that is beside the point),
Then they came for the Jews, and I said nothing because I was not Jewish (actually in a sense I am Jewish, since CHRIST never said he was no longer a Jew, and I am a Devout Christian),
Then they came for the Catholics, and I said nothing cause I wasn't Catholic (actually I was born Catholic, yet left it several years ago),
Than they came for the Buddahists, and I said nothing cause I was not Buddahists,
then they Came for the Christians, and I said nothing cause I didn't attend church regularly (I am actually in church 2-3 times a week),
Then they came for ME and there was NO ONE left to Speak on my Behalf."
Here is that Poem in its Original Form, written by Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892-1984), a Lutheran Pastor in the 1930's who was Outspoken about the nazification of Europe, and for being against the Nazi's, he was put into Sachsenhausen and Dachau for 8 years until the Liberation of Dachau in 1945.
Is THIS what we really want to go back and Experience????????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
| Original |
Translation |
Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte. |
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out. |
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| From: Edav38 <edav38@gmail.com>
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Date: Sep 25, 2006 8:05 PM
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What in the World has Happend to the Quakers?.......................
In the USA from the 1600's to the Latter 1800's, the Quakers were the Single LARGEST Contributor (man/woman poer and $$$) to controlling the Underground Railroad. Levi Coffin was, and IS, among the Most RECOGNIZED Names in the Freedom Train of ALL Time, Equal to Harriet Tubman herself. Levi Coffin, who Began his fight against Slavery at the age of "12", when he got a Runaway Slave boy of around his age, to his father and grandmother who were able to use the Quaker Network of North Carolina to get the runaway slave boy to the north where his parents had escaped to.
The Quakers did this because they ABHORRED Slavery in ALL of its Myriad Forms.
NOW, in the early 21st century, here are the Quakers Completely REVERSING that Stance, and having a Open Dialogue and PRAISING a Man who BELIEVES and Encourages the ENSLAVEMENT of WOMEN, The Mutilation of Woman's sexual organs (which GOD Created), This "man" Believes that ALL Jews should be EXTERMINATED, he BELIEVES that Jews should all be Forced Out of the Holy Land, This man BELIEVES that ALL NON-MUSLIMS are Infidels and should be converted or Put to Death.
Islam GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING that the Quakers BELIEVE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And here you are having an Open Dialogue, BELIEVING that you can Change this persons ways and get him to be more accepting.
This man Was One of the People who held the Iranian American Embassy Hostages for Over a Year.
They MURDERED the Duly Elected Government of Iran and the ENTIRETY of the Shaw's Family.
I BET YOU THAT LEVI COFFIN, and ALL of the Quakers of the past would be DULY Embarrassed with the Congregation of Friends being Involved with a man who is NO FRIEND TO ANYONE!!!!!!!!!! Except for those who ENSLAVE MEN AND WOMEN just because they have Power over them.
Your magazine is called Common Dreams.
The ONLY "Common Dream" that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has is a World where ALLLLLLL Non-Muslims are Either Converted to Islam or have been put to Death.
HE HAS SAID SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed
Indianapolis